awful...how old are you? 13? seriously...2 TLC songs? youre embarassing yourself and the website.

Wow! You can lay off now. Seriously.

I don't think it's a great idea to cut down other people's mix on this site. So many different people have so many different tastes in music, and some of those people want to share the mixes they make with the rest of the community. Now I hope I haven't taken part in this practice, and if I have I'm sorry to anyone who's gotten the harsher end of my critism. But, to go as far as to say this mix is embarassing the website, is a bit harsh. That being said, I think these mixes are great Luna, don't let people like Chris discourage you. We're all part of the same community here on AOTM, even if some of us have a holier than thou attitude because they listen to more lesser known bands than you happened to have put on a single mix. Keep it up, I enjoy them.

Thanks!

But in this case, Anthony, I think the criticism is justified. This mix is so full of manufactured artists it boggles the mind. Plus, the two TLC songs are only two tracks apart, separated by...Good Charlotte? I know this is kind of a theme mix, but whatever happened to flow? And if I see that ridiculous "Bodies" song one more time I swear I will give up on metal forever. I'm not trying to be mean, Luna Moth, but the site is ART of the Mix, not Half-Assed Attempts at the Mix.

i dunno joykiller, does starting a mix with 2 steve miller tracks back to back sound familiar? maybe you should keep your half-assed attempts at constructive criticism in check. your snottiness is embarrassing. have some grace; barring that, show some tact for chrissakes.
anyway:
luna moth, i really like the idea behind these mixes, and i like that you're trying to capture different personalities in this series. keep 'em coming!
(props to anthony for showing the true spirit of the site)

Two Steve Miller Band songs in a row? That's right, I did that...but remember, "Threshold" is the intro to "Jet Airliner," not a completely separate song. I listed them as separate tracks for clarity's sake, because that's how they appear on both "Book of Dreams" and various greatest hits albums. And I'll even acknowledge that SMB (and "Jet Airliner" in particular) is way overplayed, and lyrically...well, Miller was never the greatest lyricist, let's put it that way. My criticism is perfectly appropriate -- this mix reads like a Clear Channel playlist, and I'd encourage Luna Moth to perhaps consider more than one possibility for a song selection, rather than the first one she/he hears on the radio. I'm just suggesting she dig a little deeper, that's all. If "Raychelle" likes pop music, one should make her a mix that both reflects her tastes AND opens her ears to something new. After all, that's the entire idea, right?

sorry, but i really don't think your "criticism is appropriate." i really don't think taking cheap shots at someone's musical tastes is "the entire idea", whether their mix reads like a clear channel playlist or not. i'd take a clear channel song selection over presumptuous condescension any day of the week, ESPECIALLY from someone with an archive like YOURS (stones > zep > crowes > petty > dire straits > gnr? maybe you should be taking your own advice about digging a little deeper). and what's up with:
"If 'Raychelle' likes pop music, one should make her a mix that both reflects her tastes AND opens her ears to something new."
way to tell someone else what THEIR mix SHOULD do (assuming it didn't, which you have no way of knowing). way to establish the "ground rules" for someone else's mix. preening crap like that makes me wanna holla. why don't YOU make a mix for raychelle (in this "sndtrk to the movie" format) that reflects your tastes AND opens her ears to something new? that might be a more creative response than calling her song choices "ridiculous." and i'll say it again: calling someone's mix "half-assed" is NOT the entire idea. at all. it's preening crap. and it nauseates me to think that this site offers so much of it up.

So it's not okay for me to take cheap shots at someone, but perfectly acceptable for you to do the same to me. How wonderfully hypocritical. If I may defend my tastes: "Black Dog" is a very difficult to find acoustic bootleg; "Oh Well" is the Crowes WITH Jimmy Page COVERING Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac (not hard to find, but certainly an interesting collage); and "One in a Million" can't be found anymore because Axl removed it from "Gn'R Lies." When was the last time you heard "Tumbling Dice" on the radio? I dug pretty damn deep for some of those songs (not quite as deep for others), but you can't go making cheap shots at MY archive.
Again, if the author is offended, my apologies. But unlike caps lock, I don't believe the entire idea of the site is to blindly praise everything that gets posted. "Hey, you hit the submit button, way to go! A personal soundtrack mix? How original!" To be perfectly blunt, caps lock, I really don't give a hot crap whether you think my criticism is appropriate. If Luna Moth is bothered, let her defend her own work. Give it a rest.

actually, i heard "tumbling dice" on the radio last night. i don't consider a song that appears on a compilation of the rolling stones' greatest hits ("rewind") to be an example of digging deep. at all.

having said that, i will agree that the point of this site is not to blindly praise every mix posted. but you're simply being cruel. implying that a personal soundtrack mix - regardless of the chosen tracks - is unoriginal is overly harsh. how fresh do you consider a single-artist mix to be (and an all-westerberg one at that)? i'd be careful about calling someone a hypocrite.

as for the "I'm not trying to be mean, Luna Moth, but the site is ART of the Mix, not Half-Assed Attempts at the Mix" statement, what were you trying to be, if not wilfully and obviously mean?

i don't think it's hypocritical of me at all to call you out on your behavior, joykiller (appropriate nickname, btw). and i don't think it's hypocritical to call your own choices and tastes into question. my intention, more than anything else, was to remind you that YOUR archive is just as suspect as anyone else's. as is mine. that much should be fairly obvious. and it's unnecessary, although amusing, to see you defend your classic rock picks so earnestly. congratulations: you like the stones, led zep, the black crowes (WITH JIMMY PAGE!!!), et al. and SMB. keep in mind, of course, that i still haven't had the ill-conceived notion to call any of your picks "ridiculous."
and don't make me laugh with that "unlike caps lock, i don't believe the entire idea of the site is to blindly praise" crap. what is that? histrionics? is that your best argument? that's funny stuff, dood. i think it's pretty clear that most aotm-ers seek out stuff they like and pass over the rest (like your mixes, for example...).
feel free to post whatever you want, but keep in mind that you don't speak for aotm at large. your presumption to superiority is unwarranted, laughable, and lame. and, like you, i don't care whether you agree or not. however, bullying someone over perceived shortcomings in taste will get you similar treatment.
(apologies to luna moth for hijacking her mix with this inane thread. joykiller, if we really need to prolong the flame, why don't you just hit me up on e-mail? i think we've said all we need to say here, don't you?)

I didn't say that my ideas were original -- that was my entire point, that pretty much every mix idea has been done countless times, so anyone who screams "original idea" is being disingenuous.
With regards to "Tumbling Dice": Yeah, like I said, I didn't dig as deep for that one as I did for others. I just heard it on "Exile."
I wasn't trying to be "willfully and obviously mean," I was trying to be clever.
And actually, my new Westerberg mix isn't "all-westerberg" -- you'll notice Joan Jett appears on the first track.

oh, and i'm certain that the cover of "saturday night" on your "anywhere's better than here" mix is by ned's atomic dustbin. you know, from the soundtrack to "so i married an axe murderer".

Thanks creoslt.

i didn't say that you'd claimed that your ideas were original, either. however, someone who posts a clearly sarcastic comment like "'Hey, you hit the submit button, way to go! A personal soundtrack mix? How original!'" is obviously attacking someone else for what he or she perceives to be unoriginality. if "pretty much every mix idea has been done countless times", why do you even bother commenting? when exactly did luna moth scream "original idea"? and when exactly did we start confusing cleverness with spite?

with regards to "tumbling dice": actually, what you said was "When was the last time you heard 'Tumbling Dice' on the radio?" which implies that it's some obscure gem. (i love that song, by the way.)

oh, and i did in fact notice that the first song on your latest westerberg compilation features joan jett. that doesn't change the fact that paul westerberg is on every track, and that you posted it as a single artist mix (which was my point).

i'll apologize as well, luna moth. i just felt as if i should respond to joykiller's reply to my comment. sorry.

No offense taken to any of this guys. The pop music simply best represented her life, because, well, she just is one of those people best represented by pop, just like there are people represented by rap, rock, r&b, classical, metal, jazz, etc. Now that that's out, can everyone forgive each other? Please?
Thank-you.