plushpig

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Member Since: 1/13/2003
Total Mixes: 99
Total Feedback: 346

Other Mixes By plushpig

CD | Theme - Road Trip
CD | Theme - Road Trip
MP3 Playlist | Mixed Genre
CD | Single Artist
CD | Pop

Dirty Old Men

Artist Song
Chuck Berry  Sweet Little Sixteen 
Neil Diamond  Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon 
The Lovin' Spoonful  Youger Girl 
Rich Kids  Young Girls 
Mamas & Papas  Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon) 
Donovan  Teen Angel 
Kim Fowley  Bubblegum 
Graham Bond Organisation  Little Girl 
Them  Little Girl 
Larry Williams  Little Schoolgirl 
Don & Bob  Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 
John Mayall  She's Too Young 
Abba  Does Your Mother Know 
Elvis Presley  Little Sister 
Roosevelt Sykes  Jailbait 
Nils Lofgren  Jailbait 
Motorhead  Jailbait 
Patto  Hold Me Back 
Traffic  Vagabond Virgin 
JB Lenoir  Mama Talk To Your Daughter 
Rolling Stones  Stray Cat Blues 
Big Star  Thirteen 
Caravan  The Dog, The Dog, He's At It again 
Randy Newman  In Germany Before The War 

Comment:

Uh-oh, a bit of a moral conundrum here; some great tunes but ethically dubious subject matter. Is this really a suitable subject for a mix?

The thinking behind it: behind all the shit (rightly) dumped on the head of Gary Glitter when he was caught down-loading kiddie-porn and the ongoing trials of Michael Jackson there is a certain amount of hypocrisy. Songs about under- & borderline aged sexual attraction are part of an established if not particularly glorious pop tradition.

Young girls have regularly been seen either as fair game (The Stones, Big Star), or temptresses holding poor helpless men in thrall(Patto, Sykes).

Even a non-carnal (and, lets be honest, ugly as sin) band like the cerebral Canterbury scene instrumental combo Gilgamesh saw little wrong with including a crack about "scoring a schoolgirl" on the sleeve of one of their albums.

Interestingly, post-punk, the instances of paedo-pop have seemed to tail off with the only contributions here from Rich Kids, Abba of all people (an ignominious career low) & Motorhead (hardly a surprise there) although I suspect this seam continued to be mined by the likes of Aerosmith, Motley Crue etc.

The mix ends with Randy Newman taking the genre to its logical conclusion, getting into the mind of Dnsseldorf child-murderer Peter Kurtin (the subject of Fritz Lang's great movie M). A song made all the more chilling by its obliqueness & restraint.

Feedback:

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hemizen
Date: 4/13/2005
Great theme!
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valis
Date: 4/13/2005
Somewhere Clare Quilty winks, knowingly. Great work here plushpig, as always.
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zeke
Date: 4/13/2005
I like the whole thing.
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Pop Kulcher
Date: 4/13/2005
Well handled take on an interesting theme. You really ought to check out semi-legendary 60s psychedelic fringe act the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, whose lyricist had a truly disturbing attraction to underage girls, manifesting itself in some really creepy lyrics (and ultimately getting the guy institutionalized); you can read more here.
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Jenergy
Date: 4/13/2005
This is great, but it's making me feel kinda . . . old
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Papa B
Date: 4/13/2005
this is absolutely brilliant...and if i wasn't such a flake about sending out my half of the trades, i'd ask for a copy of this.
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Nest of Vipers
Date: 4/13/2005
Good one!
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musicgnome
Date: 4/13/2005
Very interesting.

Possibly a Serge Gainsbourg tune for Volume 2?
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mckbrd
Date: 4/13/2005
nice job with a subject that's, well.........
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McDonald12
Date: 4/13/2005
great and interesting theme, and smashing picks too.
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Sean Lally
Date: 4/13/2005
i like it ... and yet as a new father of a baby girl, i'm really disturbed and worried.
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steelkillie
Date: 4/13/2005
Really well done.An interesting but disturbing theme.
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sport !
Date: 4/13/2005
Disturbingly great songs - at least the Big Star song is about BEING 13.
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Dom1
Date: 4/13/2005
You beat me to it, so I might leave my mix til another time. Great stuff!
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LibDude
Date: 4/13/2005
Great idea and great mix.

For a volume 2, you might add "Edge of the World" by Faith No More. quote: "Hey, litte girl ; Would you like some candy?"..."It's not the point ; That I'm forty years older"..."I'll do anything ; For the little girlies"



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Rob Conroy
Date: 4/13/2005
Great mix and a great idea. I thought about doing this once (albeit fleetingly) and I'm glad to see someone beat me to it with such panache. Btw, Sean, we both know a certain individual whose interactions with the youngens should be monitored... and apparently he's already met her. :-) Btw, congrats on mix o' t' week.
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antisthenes
Date: 4/13/2005
Excellent idea. You could also have thought about including Serge Gainsbourg's entire career, maybe also Alizee's Ma Lolita.
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Saaf
Date: 4/13/2005
Congrats on MOTW. Interesting theme. It's notable that there are so many songs that can fit here. I can think of at least a few.
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lo-fi jr.
Date: 4/13/2005
Creepily good. Congrats!
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Nick Falivena
Date: 4/13/2005
Who's Don and Bob?
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Orchid
Date: 4/14/2005
Sadly, it's a two-way street, fellas. I'm surprised no one has brought up the ever-disturbing "Baby Boy" by Beyonce: "Baby boy you stay on my mind/ fulfill my fantasies/ I think about you all the time/ I see you in my dreams." How sick is that?

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Bear
Date: 4/14/2005
Great idea, great mix, great notes- congratulations!
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The Misfit
Date: 4/14/2005
Nice.
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SAG
Date: 4/14/2005
Interesting point and collection of songs. Even when I was a kid, I thought it was a little weird the way Gene Simmons talked to "Christine Sixteen"...
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G-Sphere
Date: 4/14/2005
Congrats on MOTW. Another intersting mix.
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FLWB
Date: 4/14/2005
Congrats on the MOTW. Johnny Burnette's "You're Sixteen" was written in a teen viewpoint but got creepy when Ringo Starr sang, "you fell out of my dreams and into my car, now you're my angel devine..."
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shunn789
Date: 4/14/2005
For the sequel disc, you could always use "Janie Runaway" by Steely Dan, which includes (among many creepy lines) the line: "Who has a friend named Melanie?/Who's not afraid to try new things?/Who gets to spend her birthday in Spain?/Possibly you, Janie Runaway."
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tobacco snot
Date: 4/14/2005
was andre williams an intentional ommission? if not, squeeze some of his thing into vol.2
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SMoss
Date: 4/15/2005
Excellent! I wish I had thought of some of these songs. See my Humbert and Lo.Congrats on the MOTW. Maybe we can trade these? By the way, Wishbone Ash does a nice version of Jailbait.
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p the swede
Date: 4/15/2005
excelletn
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Moe
Date: 4/15/2005
I feel dirty just looking at this mix. Congratulations to you and your parole officer on the Mix of the Week
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Curtis_Burns
Date: 4/16/2005
Wow...congratulations......Officer!!
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mdix
Date: 4/19/2005
great mix!

big star's "Thirteen" definitely does not belong there though.
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A.D. 69
Date: 4/19/2005
Haha! Good one.
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jball1954
Date: 10/1/2009
The Dog, The Dog is a great song. I also like this mix. And with the Mackenzie Phillips revelations, the Mamas & Papas track makes even more sense!