How Does that Grab Ya, Darlin'?

Artist Song
Stafrµnn Hßkon  Tµtir Rµkju  
Luminescent Orchestrii  The Scare 
Oneida  The Last Act, Every Time 
Reigning Sound  Get It! 
Thee Headcoats  We Can Only Lose 
King Tubby  Perfidia Dub 
Frantoise Hardy  Dame Souris Trotte 
Nancy Sinatra  How Does that Grab Ya, Darlin'? 
Scientist  Knock Out 
Ras Kass  Goldyn Child 
Bad Brains  Banned in DC 
The Modey Lemon  Feed the Babies 
Mudhoney  Empty Shells 
Comets on Fire  Holy Teeth 
Devotchka  The Enemy Guns 
GZA  Swordsman 

Comment:

My friend told me that the best mixes he's ever made were the ones which left people wanting more. His rule of thumb is anything over 45 minutes is too long, because things usually get boring or redundant. I gave his method a shot and I've made this mix about 44 minutes, and I can sort of see why he would prefer this method because it's more to the point, but I don't necessairly agree with his opinion. Do you think the "more-is-less" strategy is a good rule of thumb for mixmaking?

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hemizen
Date: 9/29/2006
What ever feels good-do it. I don't like any room left on the disc, but that doesn't mean its wrong to do so.
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joey de vivre
Date: 9/29/2006
It grabs me but it leaves me wanting more.
More Perfidia Dub!
More Francoise, more Nancy, more headcoats!
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French Connection
Date: 9/29/2006
I tend to subscribe to the quality over quantity methodology when it comes to mixes but praps that's just cos it takes me so long to whittle a potential tracklisting down; For me a mix is over when I feel it is, never believed you have to filla cd with 80 mins o' tunes; This looks like a thoroughly enjoyable three quarters of an hour.
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Nomates
Date: 9/29/2006
I find myself leaning toward your friend's philosophy. However, I believe "French Connection" is correct when he states that, for him "a mix is over when I feel it is".I usually start by attempting to fill a CD. This is a form of "discipline" in itself. If a mix captures interest and imagination, it is invariably the "correct" duration.This mix has some great tracks on it. I would have to hear it in order to decide if I "wanted more". As you have kindly provided a link, I will do just that. Thanks.
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p the swede
Date: 9/29/2006
interesting mix
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Barrydali
Date: 9/29/2006
Do what works best for you but this kinda goodness could easily fill a whole disc in my opinion.
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groove366
Date: 9/29/2006
At one time I tried to squeeze as much on a CD that I could fit but now I usually start wrapping things up in an hour. Certainly depends on the flow and the mix itself. This one looks just right.
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sammyg123
Date: 9/29/2006
I'm with the opinion that if the mix has great songs on then it's ok by me. If your last few minutes are anything to go by this is a corker. Look forward to listening...
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sammyg123
Date: 9/29/2006
If your last few 'minutes' are anything to go by? What on earth? I meant, If your last few mixes are anything to go by this is going to be a corker!
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valis
Date: 9/30/2006
Go salman! Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law....
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Mr. Mirage
Date: 9/30/2006
I know a total of (count 'em) TWO artists here, so I'll be downloading and checkin' this out...On the the serious, philosophical issue! A mix is like a story, play, movie, etc... it is as long as it should be, depending on the mixer. Some of mine are short, some fill the disc, and a few fill more than one (my Elton John mix filled four, the longest for a single artist for me).The majority of discs I mix are for travel, and a drive to Chicago is around a disc there and one back while the last trip to Detroit (Tigers beat the Orioles) took 4 discs due to traffic, side trip to hotel, etc.A brief stroll to work, sitting at my desk getting my programs up, 1st break, lunch and 2nd break will usually run one disc.
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Little Spencer Boys
Date: 9/30/2006
By that logic, one should leave blank canvas on paintings and blank pages in a book.
It depends on the mix, I reckon. I have just finished an 'idiosyncratic history of country-rock' and every disc in the set is full to the brim.(when I get the courage, I'll post it here, of course.
look forward to a listen of this 'short mix', hehehe
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Rob Conroy
Date: 9/30/2006
I'm absolutely in favor of squeezing music into every available second of CDR space. To me, that's part of the challenge of making a mix--keeping it interesting over the course of 80 minutes--and I'm often annoyed when folks continually do mixes that are shorter than that. At any rate, this looks like a great selection of tunes.
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Siobhan
Date: 9/30/2006
Excellent stuff here! And a really nice mix of genres - live the Hardy, Bad Brains and Moodey Lemon a lot, and yay for Comets On Fire. The length of a mix is an interesting one. My brother used to claim that 18 songs was the ideal number for a mix, and I did test that out for a while...I suppose it all depends on what you put on the disc. Like Rob I tend towards squeezing as much as possible into the 80 mins, but as long as it's great stuff and works well, I don't mind whether it's 40, 60 or 80! Regardless of the length, I'm sure this all sounds fantastic.
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Mixxer
Date: 9/30/2006
Good question, Salman. Among us AOTMers, somewhere around 79m55s seems to be about average. But when I make mixes for folks not into it so much, 50 minutes or so is plenty. That also leads to a related question, how many times does a recipient nomrmally listen to a mix?
Nice mix by the way. There seems to be some buzz around Devotchka lately.
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musicgnome
Date: 9/30/2006
Size doesn't matter....Pshaw.Personally, a mix shouldn't be judged by it's length. I tend to utilize full 80 minute disc comps (or multi-discs) or even series, but that doesn't make them better. I usually do that, because of the ridiculous amount of music at my disposal and a LOT of my mixes tend to be thematic or genre explorations, so in those cases, providing more examples is beneficial.But, to cite DJ Karen or other "DJ/Blended" explorations, sometimes a tighter mix would sound better.In short, Fuck Formulas and sweeping generalizations, all together. Do what you like, listen to what you like, and for as long as you like.
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musicgnome
Date: 9/30/2006
Don't know why a lot of that was bold face. Not intentional.
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GambleOn
Date: 10/2/2006
Wicked mix, great choices all around. Really enjoyed 2, 13, 15 (from the picks I didn't already know) As for length, I quite enjoy short mixes - many of my recent ones have been under an hour: 'Short 'n' sweet', as the cliche goes. But yeah, whatever works!
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Orchid
Date: 10/2/2006
I think the best mixer is able to utilize all 80 minutes, leaving me in a state of bliss but still ravenous for more. But length doesn't necessarily matter.
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tornadoZ
Date: 10/2/2006
I tend to agree with Orchid and Rob C for my own mixes. but then I make tapes, not CDs, and it's a pain to have blank space at the end of the tape. part of the fun is trying to pick just the right music to wrap things up with the smallest amount of blank tape at the end. but of course I enjoy a good mix of any length. this certainly looks like a good one, thanks for the link.
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tornadoZ
Date: 10/4/2006
ps. loved track #2 and the 13-15 bit. and I'm always a sucker for a Frantoise Hardy tune. nice one.
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senatorhung
Date: 10/9/2006
as others have stated, i think that mix length is part of the art - it depends on the purpose (road trip, background, party time), theme, flow, and any other creative idiosyncracy you'd like to throw into the stew.

it's a shame when a perfectly good mix gets wrecked when a couple of filler tracks are kludged in to top up a mix to 79:55. however, i also hate to think that i've 'wasted' part of a cd and usually accept the challenge of designing a mix that makes maximum use of the time available.
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Bear
Date: 10/17/2006
Missed this Salman. It grab me good! Great GZA curtain call.
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DJ Karen Adams
Date: 11/1/2006
Nancy Sinatra, Bad Brains and GZA on the same mix? This fits sooo snuggly up my alley that you would not believe. FYI, I started creating "short" mixes so I could strengthen my skills.